Vocational Voodoo

Boss Astrology

What is Boss Astrology?   It’s like, when you look at a birth chart, what are you looking at in terms of success indicators?  There are a few classics here – a crowded 10th house or 5th house, for creatives. A strong Mars, particularly one augmented by Saturn. Mars is ambition and guts – tempered by the wisdom of sagacious Saturn, it functions really well.  Jupiter with anything lends extra luck and audacity.

But i actually crunched the birth charts of several of the top C.E.O.s and came up with some interesting findings, not all of them the ones that we would expect. Now there are two frustrations here, obviously. The first is that most of these people do not have out-there birth times, so we can’t collect as much data as would be desirable. The second is that obviously there are many ways to lead and be a boss person without being the C.E.O. of a global corporation AND I am not saying that this automatically bestows ‘goodness’ upon them.

But the leaders of the worlds most profitable companies presumably have some management nous and so their astrological details should be telling.  There were predictably a lot of Mars in Capricorn people and when Mars was not in Capricorn (where it is exalted) it was in aspect to Saturn, the ruler of Capricorn. Mars-Saturn is also seen a lot in military leaders.

Less predictably, a lot of these leaders have Mercury Retrograde (never let anyone imply that is a handicap again) and their Sun square Saturn – that is interesting as SO many astrological textbooks have awful definitions of this aspect; life is a struggle, they are their own worst enemy, they will lack the courage to shine their light etc. And yet a crazy high ratio of these C.E.O.s have it.  So driven people? Maybe.

It reminds me of a study i read about that was done in Australia but is broadly relevant across the first world. In total confidentiality, about 200 very successful people were interviewed about their childhoods and influences. The men all routinely had ‘good’ childhoods, supportive families, a strong focus on team sports and high marks. The women? Not so much. Many had survived abuse and succeeded despite their early influences, not because of them. The study concluded that the grit which enabled them to get through their youth had shaped a persona strong enough to combat entrenched patriarchal attitudes. They were fortified.

Whereas men with similar backgrounds tended to act out delinquently. The female side of this equation makes me think of Saturn squares – they will always make you stronger, in the way that a muscle which is put under tension (as in weight lifting or the harder yoga poses) will respond by becoming more powerful.

So here are the key astrological signatures of some top biz peeps ( I am focusing more on hierarchical success herek, rather than entrepreneurs, although a few are included.)  And remember, we don’t know most of these peeps birth time so are having to look at key aspects, without the Midheaven. But i still think there is a lot to learn from these folk.

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Joy Mangano is the single mother (Aquarius) turned mop multi millionaire portrayed brilliantly by Jennifer Lawrence in the movie Joy.  Key astrological signatures – Mercury Retrograde, conjunct her Aquarius Sun and opposite Jupiter in Leo.  So with that going on, when you do get going, you go big.  She stayed friends with her ex-husband, making him a part of her company to keep him close to her kids and because (she says) he makes a better friend than a husband. That feels super Aqua Sun opposite Jupiter.  It’s canny too as what better way to avoid a troublesome lawsuit than to keep him on your payroll, managed, so to speak.  Mangano has the classic wealth indicator: Jupiter conjunct Pluto, the so-called “mogul aspect.”   Remember, whether it is natal or via transit/progression and no matter what style of aspect, Jupiter-Pluto is always $$$.

Jeff Bezos, the billionaire founder of Amazon, is Capricorn Sun + Mars – that actually is a classic go-getter. As a toddler, he dismantled his own cot with a screwdriver. A few years later he rigged the smoke detector in his bedroom to keep his siblings out of the room. So, ingenuity, obviously. He also has Mercury in Capricorn (retrograde) and trined by Uranus. So easy flow of innovative ideas –  now he’s doing drones – that are not rejected out of hand by the usually conservative Capricorn Mercury because…Retrograde?

Sheryl Sandberg – the C.E.O. of Facebook and author of the influential female leadership tome, Lean In, has Mercury Direct but bang on Uranus and Jupiter in Libra. So Mercury is showing up here as a theme, right? Mercury in Aquarius (Mangano) is similar to Mercury-Uranus (Bezos and Sandberg). Steve Jobs (Apple) had Mercury Retrograde in Aquarius – ‘think different’ indeed. It was also square his Saturn.

Larry Page, the CEO of Google, has the exalted Mars in Capricorn (hard-driving work ethic and boss vibe, always) with Mercury Retro in Pisces squared by Saturn. Meg Whitman, the CEO of Hewlett Packard Enterprise is one of the most powerful and controversial (Sun conjunct Uranus) women in business. She’s got a helpful Mars trine Saturn AND Pluto squares them both.

Are you seeing a pattern here? Mercury Retrograde and Saturn squares – both traditionally seen as not so hot – are showing up again and again in these classic success stories.

Ursula Burns – the first African-American woman to head a Fortune 500 company (Xerox) is a Virgo, with Mars in Taurus trine her Sun AND Saturn squaring it. A hefty Jupiter-Neptune conjunction in early Scorpio brings the visionary.  Oprah Winfrey is another Sun-Saturn square person, FYI.

Les Moonves, the long-time head of CBS – has a nice strong Mars, conjunct Pluto and is yet another Mercury Retro boss person.

Bill Gates – one of the few of these peeps we have a birth time for – has his Aries Moon conjunct his Midheaven (and i betcha most of the people above have equally potent Midheaven aspects), the hefty mogul aspect of Jupiter-Pluto and Saturn square them both.

So if you were somehow astrologically engineer the perfect ‘boss’ person – you would be wanting a Mercury Retrograde, some energy around the Midheaven, a Mars in Aries/Capricorn or energized by Jupiter, Saturn, Pluto and a nifty Sun-Saturn square.

Never resent your Saturn and Capricorn stuff. I literally just got an email about a person named Lars Sorensen, head of a Danish pharmaceutical company, who has been named the most successful CEO by Harvard Business Review. I have no birth chart for him but going off his birthday, it’s there immediately – Mars in Capricorn and Mercury conjunct Saturn.

So, thoughts?

 

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  • Reply scorpiodawn June 16, 2016 at 2:53 am

    wow!
    my son has five planets in the 10th
    n node, uranus, venus, merc and neptune.
    he has mars in cap
    neptune conjunct mc

    • Reply Mystic Medusa June 16, 2016 at 7:55 pm

      Leadership potential for sure. Depending on his age, i imagine he would clearly be standing out from his peers already. Mars Neptune in Cap is visionary boss vibe!

      • Reply scorpiodawn June 19, 2016 at 8:35 am

        wow thanku x x

  • Reply Parisa June 16, 2016 at 2:55 am

    What a hack! Makes me wonder about a v successful investor/entrepreneur I worked for briefly a few years ago…he’s incredibly wealthy, self-made and is upping his profile right now via TV.

    Must see if I can finally DoB for him…tho I’d be shocked if he didn’t have Mercury retro just from working with him.

    I have always had entrepreneurial dreams, mainly cuz I studied music and sound engineering and having the ability to work for yourself/shape your own career just seemed sensible with how the industry was/is going.

    Since learning about my own Astro tho I have found my Mars in Cancer intercepted, 10th house, conjunct Gemini midheaven, super hard to jump start.

    It’s even trine Scorpio Pluto in 2nd. Mogul potential…

    Of course that means my Capricorn is intercepted too, with Neptune chilling there opposed Mars.

    Maybe it’s my Scorpio Saturn square my Aqua Jupiter. Or maybe that’s what I need to work, from the info above.

    No Merc retro tho…conjunct sun in Gemini and Virgo rising…I am mercurial to the nth degree 🙂

    • Reply Mystic Medusa June 16, 2016 at 8:01 pm

      So Mars in 10th House is LIKE Mars in Cap. And absolutely having it trine your Pluto in 2nd is mogul. I am not so fussy about interceptions as some you seem like you have ALL the right equipment here to finesse this and the current Saturn-Neptune square Hyper Flux would bring extra – out there concepts for working your Mars-Neptune

  • Reply rebel June 16, 2016 at 6:30 am

    Fascinating! Especially about the Mercury retro. My father is a small business owner and we always tease him about being “the Boss” of everything. He has Mercury retrograde in Cap, Mars in Aries squares his Cap sun and trines Saturn in Sag. Saturn is square Pluto in Virgo. I don’t have an exact birth time, but it’s interesting to see how these aspects show up for an ambitious boss person who nevertheless didn’t have ambitions to run a large corporation.

    • Reply Mystic Medusa June 16, 2016 at 8:02 pm

      Exactly – BOSS vibe is totally relevant for small biz people – they just don’t show up on the media-google radar with their birthdates for me to check out.

      But guaranteed a successful small-medium biz person would have these indicators, as your dad demonstrates!

  • Reply Powderfinger June 16, 2016 at 6:43 am

    My Virgoan 0° Mars Cj my 2° Pluto that trines my 2° Sat in Cap is my boss signature.

    But in teaching that type of thing is frowned upon. It is not regarded. “We are more empathetic and inclusive these days” is what tgey parrot. (INTERP: “We are saccharine roll over and scratch me tummy types”).

    But when there is a group of rowdy kids, anywhere between 80 – 500, at an assembly l can get them to be quiet thru a mix of vocal and visual determination. I hang my head in embarassment when l see some so-called executive try the same thing.

    My Uran 1H cj my Merc & my Aqua Moon make school senior management think l am not boss material. But most of em cant control kids like l can. My Kataka Sun/Asc manifests as an iron fist in a velvet glove. Ppl have been duped by that before. SFF.

  • Reply Powderfinger June 16, 2016 at 7:06 am

    Ian Chappell. Oz’s greatest cricket captain was this (no birthtime)

    He 6 majors in Leo incl the Moon, Jup & Pluto
    = Born to rule.
    He had Sun & Nep Libra & 3 in Gem: Mars, Saturn & Uran
    = Born to communicate.
    He had 2 in Virgo, Merc & Venus (SD) plus the 3 Gems
    = Born to understand

    A lot of conjuncts, trines & sextiles between that Gem Leo Libra energy as well as the placements of Mercury ruled Gem & Virgo.

    The most revered test capt Australia ever had. As MM says of Libras somethn about “whims of steel”

  • Reply Devi June 16, 2016 at 8:10 am

    I have 5th house Aqua Sun squaring Mars/Saturn conjunct in Scorpio in the 2nd. Pluto in 1st house Scorpio trining Neptune/Jupiter in Cap, and squaring Merc in Aqua. Part of Fortune conjunct my MC. And my chart ruler is Venus in Cap. Maybe I should think about trying to be a boss.

    This reminds me, though, of when I was in 4th grade, and my teacher pulled me aside after class and told me not to express my opinions, since other students listened to me and she wanted them to form their own thoughts without my input. Funny how this stuff is gendered. Boss potential suppressed in 10 year old girls.

    • Reply [email protected] June 16, 2016 at 4:21 pm

      Ha! That’s uncanny – the SAME thing happened to me in 4th grade. My teacher put me into a different reading group from my friends in a particularly pointed way. “Let them think for themselves, for once!” she snarled at me in front of everyone. It left a mark, for sure. I really wasn’t a bully, just an exuberant 10th house Aries sun with a lot of sweet Pisces friends who I still see to this day! Very gender biased, also. None of the boys got that crap.

    • Reply Mystic Medusa June 16, 2016 at 8:09 pm

      that is a weird deal of dealing with it from the teacher. Like REAL weird. I don’t get it – it’s not even logical.

      FYI Pluto would not trine your cap – it would sextile it.

      Mercury square Pluto is amazing – does information come to you that should be secret ? Or do people get paranoid about you for no good reason?

      Justin Bieber has that square – Gertrude Stein also – Jay Z, John Lennon – Jessica Lange – Rasputin.

      It can sometimes mean that you relate to your generation very differently – both standing outside of it and defining it. A lot of musicians – Bjork – and people like Bardot – not sure why exactly.

      Your Jupiter over Pluto – late 2017/2018 will be RAD

      • Reply Sue June 18, 2016 at 7:55 pm

        How interesting. Mercury squares are abundant in my chart including that one! Insightful thanks.

        • Reply scorpiodawn June 19, 2016 at 8:40 am

          yes it is insightful…coz i always think of squares as ‘bad’.
          oh well…im obviously taking a simplistic view!

  • Reply Meredith June 16, 2016 at 8:34 am

    I can level with this. The first person to spring to mind for me here is my grandmother (mother’s side). She’s been a work-a-holic since I can remember. Work at work, work at home type. She was always a business person, top-level management. Around the time I was in my teens she exposed her *then* boss for his illegal use of company money/assets. She was fired and took several of the ladies from the company with her to develop her own company of which she has been the CEO for at least the past 20-25 years!

    Her Mars is rightfully in Capricorn conjunct Jupiter (1 degree orb), in the 2H $$$. She also has Sun/Merc conjunct exact at 4° in Scorpio. Uranus in the 5H, and Venus on her MC in Libra, Opposite Saturn – Saturn putting that constant pressure on MC. Pretty appropriate! She’s always been her own boss, accountant, manager – everything.

    Maybe my natal Mars in Cappy (intercepted 4H opposite MC) is just waiting on one really good transit for lift-off.

    • Reply Meredith June 16, 2016 at 8:35 am

      I meant to include her Sun/Merc conjunct is in 11H.

      • Reply Mystic Medusa June 16, 2016 at 8:12 pm

        Love this. And Venus-MC in Libra would also mean justice – like genuinely freaking the fuq out at unfairness. Making that part of her brand.

        When is Pluto across your Mars?

        • Reply Meredith June 18, 2016 at 9:24 am

          He is just moving out of orb of my mars at 10° separation. My natal Mars at 6° and he at 16°. Maybe this kind of thing has been in the brew for a while now, and it’s time to look back over the past several years and take account of what I’ve learned – and put it to use! 🙂

    • Reply Nia June 16, 2016 at 9:48 am

      You also have Mars square Saturn! And that Mercury-Uranus conj… 🙂

      • Reply Meredith June 16, 2016 at 10:33 am

        Yes that’s right, and that Saturn conjunct Jupiter amping that Saturn up! Lot’s of potential a brewing ^-^

  • Reply leoliza June 16, 2016 at 9:04 am

    My husband has 7th aries sun (on DSC) square Cancer MC/mars conjunction….which i guess makes a tsqquare with his Cap IC (and not too close saturn there)…He and his brothers have been in gen. contract business for 25yrs. all of them driven!!

    • Reply Mystic Medusa June 16, 2016 at 8:13 pm

      Yes Mars squares to your Sun – especially in Aries – means you ARE driven – I know someone with this aspect and she literally cannot stand “sitting about” – all meetings are conducted moving. Undone things absolutely stress her. Mind you there is some virgo vibe there also…

  • Reply Nia June 16, 2016 at 9:51 am

    Fascinating hack! Especially the Sun sq Saturn feature, and the study of men vs. women upbringings re: success.

    I have more of an entrepreneurial chart overall, but some of the boss points show up. People tend to naturally thrust me in the leader role…even thought I’m not a “people person” I rock at other boss aspects. Mercury retrograde in 5H stellium, including Sun. My Mars is part of a Grand Cardinal Cross, but no Saturn link (11º sextile only). A Capricorn Neptune square instead.

    I have Saturn(conj Uranus)-Moon and Saturn-MC squares (T square)—I love the description of Saturnine squares as muscle. Mine have definitely gone through some workouts!

    My partner is a supervisor of large productions, he has a packed 10H including Sun-Mercury, trine Mars-NN. Uranus conjunct MC trine Saturn. Work is definitely a driving force, and he is very successful, but interestingly zero Earth in his chart.

    • Reply Mystic Medusa June 16, 2016 at 8:17 pm

      thank you!

      And yes you can get some great “people people” but they can suck at actually getting things done. It’s interesting as successful politicians are usually people-people but their actual executive ability – the talent to bring necessary changes or think long-term – is lacking. But get them glad-handing, showing up at events and charming people and it;s all ON.

      Yes Saturn is structure, muscle, bone – Saturn Uranus Moon is superb AND a lot of successful creatives – like their art or performance product is long lived and prosperous through diff eras – are heavy in the fifth house.

  • Reply Oneirix June 16, 2016 at 10:35 am

    It’s nice to read something empowering about Sun-Saturn square! I have my Saturn in 12H Cap squaring my 2H Aries Sun, and I’ve never really known how to read it other than “shit’s tuff for you, figure it out.” Pluto in 9H Scorp squaring my 1H Aqua Mars, too. 5H Kataka Jupiter for “creative” type, well-aspected by Mercury and Venus and opposite Uranus.

    For what it’s worth, I’ve always been pegged a “natural leader” (especially when young), although I’ve never particularly enjoyed the mantle beyond being able to do my own thing. I had always thought it was just part of being an Aries Sun, but there may be something to that Sun-Saturn square after all! Thanks for the fun hack. 🙂

    • Reply Mystic Medusa June 16, 2016 at 8:18 pm

      Absolutely – Sun-Saturn from 12th to 2nd is driven to be self reliant on all levels – spiritually and financially being key among those.

  • Reply sphinx June 16, 2016 at 10:01 pm

    My little pork chop #1 has Mars/Saturn conjunct in the 10th. He also has Jupiter in Capricorn in the 2nd opposite his 8th House Kataka Sun.

    Kataka saved his pocket money from carrying dishes for a year. It was a long year and a fruitful one little hoarder.
    But he recently retired and has been living off the proceeds for a few months.
    It’s doubtful he’ll return to paid employment unless he can afford a pay rise to support his ambition to purchase an X box.

    • Reply sphinx June 16, 2016 at 10:02 pm

      *for the* little hoarder

      • Reply Mystic Medusa June 18, 2016 at 5:04 am

        Jupiter trine Pluto in Capricorn the last week of June-early July COULD see a return to avaricious, boss form. Watch this and report back!

    • Reply anpan June 17, 2016 at 12:23 am

      Cute!

    • Reply Alouetta June 17, 2016 at 5:53 am

      Ha! Good for him (retiring that is).

    • Reply ICPluto June 17, 2016 at 8:40 am

      Fantatisc. He’s probably thinking if he has the means to become the boss now. 🙂

  • Reply Rebecca June 16, 2016 at 11:36 pm

    Ok so I have Mars in the 10th, mercury retro in Gemini with my sun. My Saturn is not square anything but my NN. It is however conjunct Pluto and I also have pluto Conjunct Jupiter. I do have a leadership role but I would not have ever described myself a driven. This is very interesting.

    • Reply Mystic Medusa June 18, 2016 at 5:06 am

      Jupiter-Pluto-Saturn and you’re not driven? There is actually a MASSIVE Jupiter-Pluto-Saturn conjunction in 2020 – i think – will check later – so what sign is your Jupiter-Pluto-Saturn in ???

      And it’s not so much that you would describe yourself as driven – how would your employees describe you? That would be very interesting…or your colleagues…can you ask?

      • Reply Rebecca June 19, 2016 at 8:25 pm

        I will ask my employees and colleagues that is a good idea. It will be interesting feedback.

        Saturn and Pluto are in Libra and Jupiter is 0 scorpio all in the 11th.

      • Reply Darla June 21, 2016 at 6:26 pm

        I have Jupiter- Pluto- Saturn in the third house, Libra (Jupiter at 0 Scorpio though) and I am DEFINITELY described as “driven.” Is 2020 the year I’ll see the fruits of my labors? 🙂

  • Reply socialgraffiti June 17, 2016 at 12:32 am

    This is amazing! I’m on the road to getting a JD, and later on plan on getting an MBA- and yes, I (female) had a difficult childhood, exposure to domestic violence, physical abuse, bankruptcy, etc and was forced to become independent at a young age.

    I started my own business at 17, then moved onto investment and joined a friend in stock market analytics by the time I was in college. Now working in data science and research.

    I’ve got a full 5th house (Scorpio), and Saturn (Aries) in the 10th. I’ve got Sun/Saturn exact, Sun/Jupiter and Jupiter/Saturn by one degree. No Jupiter/Pluto unfortunately, but Jupiter is in the 8th.

    Are cusps a thing? I’ve got Mars in Sagittarius, but at 28 degrees and conjunct Venus in Capricorn. Mars is square Lilith and the MC.

    • Reply Mystic Medusa June 18, 2016 at 5:09 am

      WOW go you…Seriously impressive. With all that Saturn-Jupiter-Sun action, you don’t really need Jupiter Pluto lol.

      You mean out of sign conjunction – not cusp – i think…It depends on the degree of Venus. Mars square MC means it it is ALSO square your IC – which technically can mean exposure to strong mars vibe early.

      Was martial arts or sport an outlet for you at all?

      • Reply socialgraffiti June 19, 2016 at 2:46 pm

        Venus is at 1 degree in Capricorn.

        Yes! Very energetic as a child, perhaps too much energy. Uranus and Pluto are very strong in my chart, and I learned from a young age that if I didn’t have an outlet, accidents would happen.

        Running, working out, etc- these things came pretty naturally to me. I started crossfit + Paleo when I was 15.

  • Reply anpan June 17, 2016 at 12:37 am

    So… apparently I’m an underachiever…..OR just warming up!
    Jupiter conj Pluto. Check.
    Sun square Saturn. Check.
    Saturn conj Mars. Check.
    And Merc? I don’t believe it’s retro, but does oppose Uranus.

    No midheaven action, but have 10th hse Vesta.

    And re: Sun sq Sat. I absolutely hate being told what to do (ie. Parent/child or boss/employee instruction). Luckily I am very “responsible” and have a strong work ethic, so authority figures don’t have to worry too much about me.
    Growing up, I did have a very authoritarian father. So perhaps Sun sq Saturn eventually tires of the yoke and wants to call the shots themselves?
    OR, the internal authority figure doesn’t like an external one bossing them around when they know they are fully capable without the bossing, so finds positions where they have the power?

    • Reply Mystic Medusa June 18, 2016 at 5:11 am

      Okay so sometimes Saturn square/opposition Sun (or Mars, Moon, something ‘inner’) people can have a stern authoritarian parent or an environment like – say – early boarding school.

      Other times an abusive or drug-addled parent figure can either try to crush the child OR the child is forced into more responsibility/awareness than others.

  • Reply Alouetta June 17, 2016 at 6:01 am

    Checked my chart and my life and can confirm that I am not this person! But I am curious about Venus in Capricorn or 10th. Everything I read about that is like ‘she sleeps her way to the top’, etc. If Mars is direct action in Cap, is Venus always going to be the appendage? It seems a little 70’s to me. Could this be about different styles of leadership, that are more collaborative rather than alpha boss-man? Or is Venus in Cap always the supportive partner to the go-getter Mars? Would love thoughts on this.

    • Reply ICPluto June 17, 2016 at 8:35 am

      Ops! My reply to your comment is below.

    • Reply Mystic Medusa June 18, 2016 at 5:18 am

      Far out – did I say that? “sleeps her way to the top” seems like such a dated concept now.

      that is a really good question – i don’t see Venus as the appendage but traditionally Mars/Capricorn/10th are exalted and function really well. Venus, not so much.

      Venus in 10th often is super popular and attracts admiration, good media and all. Mars in 10th can make shit happen but be not liked.

      • Reply Alouetta June 19, 2016 at 2:03 am

        You didn’t say that Mystic. It’s the sentiment I’ve picked up from myriad sites.
        Thanks for the clarification. I’m trying to find a way to make this work for me, and all I’ve got is that I’m good at collaborations with women.

    • Reply Sue June 18, 2016 at 4:19 pm

      Venus Cap conjunct Moon (8th/9th) and I’ve never been one to sleep my way to any position in life and haven’t respected those I’ve worked with who have.

      I was part of a company merger back in my 20’s that once absorbed also afforded me a promo. Probably didn’t make me popular with everyone already there that the (new)manager offered it to me and I was punching above my weight but boosted to do well given the position and salary, both offering some status I guess and responsibility, yes, boss as well. Anyway, as it turns out the manager had a thing for me so he was always popping by my desk to chat. I was attracted to him in an ‘I acknowledge I’m attracted to you but that’s it’ kind of way. He was after all a) the boss and b) married. I can’t think of 2 better reasons to NOT go there BUT there was a third, his wife was pregnant. Wtf Mister! So.. on one particular day he’d organised a meeting in the afternoon in his office, just us to discuss some financials. He calls me a bit before and said he had to bump it to end of day… 5:30. I said ok initially, as one does when given a directive in a smooth kind of way then as I sat with it I had this of fuq moment.. uh-oh gut feeling as I realised that everyone would be gone from that end of the building and we’d be on our own into the eve and that this was a strategy of sorts. Tbh part of me was mildly attracted to that idea so I was running some bizarre conflict as it would always have been a no go zone for me. That’s been my code for as long as I can recall. So I called him back shortly thereafter and cancelled feigning a call from my partner at the time with a commitment and asked for a reschedule. He didn’t back off.. or reschedule interestingly enough if one wants evidence of agenda. I was privy to all his wife’s pregnancy woes and just about everything else as he’d just come and share it with my whilst I was working and in front of other colleagues. It was obvious to all that he was favouring me and mighty uncomfortable. I felt like people thought we were sleeping together anyway and we weren’t and no amount of pushing him away/back, including others in his chats, calling him on whether he should be sharing that etc was working so.. what did I do? Well, I resigned. There simply was no other choice.

      • Reply Alouetta June 19, 2016 at 2:04 am

        That’s a bummer of an ending for you Centaurus. I hope you moved on to greener pastures.

  • Reply ICPluto June 17, 2016 at 8:35 am

    Interesting, Alouetta. Venus will never be an appendage in Cap or 10H, in my opinion. Venus is the spark that prompts Mars, without the desire there would be no action. And this Venus knows what she wants, she has discernment and wants what she sees as “the best”. The “sleeping her way to the top” could come from the fact that Cap Venus likes to mingle with powerful people who could be helpful to her goals, she wants partnerships that fulfill her ambitions. Naturally, the low version of this Venus would marry into money, could climb the ladder through questionable means, but that would come from some insecurity that she would not be able to provide for herself or the insatiable feeling of wanting more. The healthy Venus in Cap or 10H knows the value of powerful alliances, but sometimes it’s a lonely way to the top for her.

    • Reply Sue June 18, 2016 at 4:47 pm

      Hiya ICP 🙂

      I agree, she isn’t an appendage in Cap in my personal experience and I like your description.

      PS; been a wayward soul of late but did get back to reply to your comment a few hacks back and always appreciate your views. Hope you’re thriving!

  • Reply Mystic Medusa June 18, 2016 at 5:23 am

    Okay – Steve Jobs, Venus in Capricorn in the fourth house

    He was adopted by parents who nearly were NOT allowed to have him because they did not have a college education. It is all on his Wiki. That is interesting. It feels Capricorn.

    And he has Jupiter-Uranus in the 10th which TOTALLY fits – Jupiter revving up the Uranian ingenuity.

    Bjork has Venus AND MArs in Capricorn but i feel like Uranus and Pluto EXACT on her Midheaven, with Pluto being the chart ruler (i did a post on her and her Pluto stuff on the blog) is the BIG deal here.

    • Reply Alouetta June 19, 2016 at 2:07 am

      I wonder if having Venus in Cap is what gave him his great sense of applied design. I love apple products for the way they work so seamlessly together – they have such a beautiful functionality.

  • Reply Sue June 18, 2016 at 4:42 pm

    Ok, so what company should I be running? 😀

    Mars Cap:
    ~ sextile Saturn Pisces
    ~ trine Toro Asc
    ~ semi square MC Aqua
    ~ trine Uranus/Pluto Virgo (loose imo but Astro.com has it..?)
    ~ biquintile NN Gem

    And Mercury retrograde Saggi and Sun square Saturn!

    I don’t want to be boss perse but I do like to run my own show. . I do lead well and confidently as an adult. Not so much in younger years. I am confident to back my own word and truth but the point on courage to follow though with visions and dreams is true imo Mystic. Not sure if it’s that Sun square or if it’s augmented by the Sun being conjunct SN exact in a boss astro view? I’m also of the view that Jupiter un-aspected may be unhelpful.

    Certainly I would fall into the female survey version and I think a lot of Cap energy can mean late bloomers with some things as well.

    On a side note… missing these hacks, spending time learning and discussing. The hyper flux has got me these last few.. it’s like everything is competing for attention, the attention I’m struggling to have to begin with. Happy to be snatching moments here and there and will get back to read everyone’s comments (respectfully in more of a skim fashion) and join in on the chats too x

  • Reply rachel June 18, 2016 at 11:39 pm

    LOVE this hack–super interesting!

    I have an Aries moon conjunct my MC, BILL GATES LOOK OUT,

    lol

  • Reply Darla June 21, 2016 at 6:27 pm

    So I have Mars opposite my Aries Moon (9th house) with Saturn and Pluto conjunct my Mars. I have Pluto conjunct Jupiter in 3rd house Libra with Jupiter is at 0 Scorpio, opposite my Midheaven.

    Cancer Sun (11th house) is square moon, saturn, jupiter, pluto and mars ???

    mercury is conjunct north node which is conjunct sun.

    I’ve been an entrepreneur my whole life– first making Father’s Day cards and selling them on the side of the rode when I was six.

    But I haven’t made my millions . . . yet.

  • Reply Emma June 23, 2016 at 8:15 pm

    Love this!

  • Reply Amy Blankenship July 15, 2017 at 1:44 am

    I realize this is an older post, but question: I have a stellium in Cap. In the 6th with Saturn, Mars, Neptune, and Uranus, all conjunct. All of those planets are square my MC in Aries (also Mars, Saturn, and Uranus have trained with Jupiter and Venus in Aries in the 10th). Would those be considered potent MC aspects or are they negative because of the squares? I know I definitely on a quest to find my soul purpose (work and life mission) especially as I’m creeping closer to my Saturn return. I just have no idea how to interpret that energy! I feel like I’m meant to do something big, but what da fuq knows what? Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated!

    • Reply Astro Hacks July 18, 2017 at 3:17 am

      Is your chart in the gallery? Let’s have a full look. Those are definitely powerful contacts to the MC, but the square means there is resistance, at first. Maybe you don’t feel you have the ‘body’ or physical ability to do what you really want. Or it could be that routines you set up for yourself early on preclude developing in the ways you desire, at first … let’s see the chart for a fuller picture.

      • Reply Amy Blankenship July 18, 2017 at 8:01 pm

        Oh no, I haven’t done that yet. Is there a preference for orbs, objects, and house system? I will definitely upload it here in a few minutes!

        • Reply Amy Blankenship July 18, 2017 at 10:21 pm

          I did this, but just using Astrodienst defaults. Let me know if there is something else I should include?

  • Reply sofija May 21, 2018 at 3:01 am

    I never taught that I will be succesfull or have any position, because I’m really lazy, but in other hand I had so many ambitions and dreams, since I was I child, but when I grew older I realized that It’s not so easy to achieve them. But this text gave me courage and self confidence again, because I have mercury retrograde in aquarius conjuct uranus and sun in opposition with my leo ascendant and all those planets make an exact square with my taurus saturn in 10th house and scorpio mars in 4th. So if you find it intresting here’s my birth chart https://www.astrotheme.com/horoscope_chart_sign_ascendant.php?r=3 and if you take a look on it please tell me what do you think and in which area I can exspress myself and make succes. (Btw I’m really intrested in art – planing to go on art academy, history politics, writing, etc) P.S. Thank you for this post!

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