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Too Many Trines

Too Many Trines

Too many trines (those blue lines – 120 degrees, usually of the same element) can make peeps complacent.  But nice.

Let’s Revisit the Aspects

The birth chart is but a map of the solar system when someone or something was born. A la the most ancient of esoteric principle, we reflect that moment. The aspects are measured in degrees but really just describe the relationships between those planets, Sun, Moon and less tangible points such as the Ascendant or North Node.

Main Aspects

The main aspects are the Conjunction, Square, Opposition and Trine. Then there are the (arguably) less powerful aspects such as the Sextile and Quincunx. There is also the Quintile – which has a staunch group of advocates barracking for its importance as a sort of “new age aspect that we are only now evolved enough to grasp sort of thing.”



Now the orb – as in how many degrees “out” you should consider an aspect to be happening – is arguable. If you’re stretching to try and make something so, pull out and narrow that orb. For example, you’re hot for a person and wondering if your Venus and their Jupiter conjunct by 12 degrees still counts because you want it to be SO badly, don’t worry about it.

If in doubt, always narrow the orbs and consider THOSE aspects the big players in the scene. Because they ARE.

The unaspected planet

What do we make of unaspected planets? It is what it is. Rather than seeking to buffer it up via some minor planets or random asteroids, see this planet (or Sun/Moon) as a lone warrior, a secret agent, a solitary sage – whatever fits the vibe.

But it IS interesting to see what occurs when something unaspected becomes suddenly in aspect via a progression or a major transit. EG: i have seen people’s lives deepen and shift in the most amazing ways when an unaspected (say) Mars is suddenly conjoined or squared (any of the major aspects) by Pluto.

But unaspected planets are not “bad” – it just may take more work than usual to incorporate that vibe into the rest of your psyche.

Example of Too Many Trines

It can be really hard to find “example charts” of well known people – whose lives are broadly familiar to the point that astrological students can learn off them- who have heaps of trines and not many “difficult” aspects.

Why? Because they often don’t do that much. They’re not driven. Squares, Oppositions and quirky quincunxes – they drive you. They’re motivating as hell.

Something to prove?

You betcha.

Image: Richard Powers

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  • Reply Flashfire November 18, 2017 at 10:28 am

    So reassuring to hear when you’re squared, opposed, and quincunxed up, down and sideways, ten ways til Sunday, hither,thither and yon.

    • Reply Astro Hacks November 18, 2017 at 10:32 am

      Exactly. Think of it as motivation, inspiration and goad. The muse has fangs and a whip, so you actually get things done 🙂

  • Reply kel November 18, 2017 at 10:45 am

    I totally felt like this in my last relationship… Wayyyyy too many trines. Totally felt like there was no reason to be together in the end because we didn’t seem to be growing individually or catalysing anything from the relationship. It was ‘nice’ in the way that a fancy airport service lounge is…a good spot to put the feet up and indulge in a bit of haute snackery, but we both knew it was a pit stop before putting on the warrior gear and heading out for more battle

    • Reply Kristen November 18, 2017 at 1:19 pm

      Lol, must be Mars trine my 7th house Sun, Mercury and Venus that makes me cringe at your relationship criteria. Why does a relationship have to make me grow individually or catalyze anything? It seems like an awful lot of pressure to put on myself and another person. I’d rather do my growing and catalyzing on my own and have the relationship be the fancy airport lounge where I retreat and put my feet up, preferably for my partner to rub. #justpiscesthings

      • Reply kel November 18, 2017 at 1:42 pm

        Yeah cool good for you. Probs my eighth horse Mars that gets off on perpetual challenge

        • Reply Powderfinger November 18, 2017 at 2:05 pm

          Wild ride?

          • kel November 22, 2017 at 9:58 am

            Haha what a typo 😉

  • Reply Caroline November 18, 2017 at 11:10 am

    O dear I think that might be me! I’ve got 11…

    • Reply milleunanotte November 18, 2017 at 9:10 pm

      I have 12, but i’m awfully glad in light of the 8 squares, and four oppositions which give me a couple of t-squares plus one weirdo square that hinges a trine aspect elsewhere. All squares lead to MARS, as well, so trines are balm to my irritants, frustration and aggression.

      Wouldn’t say i’m too comfortable. I’m lazy and i’m driven, luxuriating and perfectionist, comfortable at home but haunted, need heaps of down time, but guilt-ridden, introverted home-space-lover and wild funster. Average human, it seems to me, but not to others, with the funky blend of outer and personal planets.

      • Reply Astro Hacks November 19, 2017 at 10:17 am

        Milleunanotte, that’s a great perspective – “…trines are balm to my irritants, frustration and aggression.” Finding healthy, creative ways to express Mars would be key. Is your chart in the gallery?

        • Reply milleunanotte November 19, 2017 at 11:40 am

          Amazing! Just uploaded. Super grateful!

    • Reply Astro Hacks November 19, 2017 at 10:07 am

      So in your case, Caroline, look for a square, oppositions, the 150 Quincunx nd 30 Degree Semi-sextile (Inconjunct), semi-square, or conjunction to an outer planet, oh, and the 135 sesquiquadrate. What planets link in that way? They may be the key to lighting a fire under inspiration and motivation.

  • Reply sphinx November 18, 2017 at 11:40 am

    Well, yes, 13 trines to my chart: Sun-Neptune, Moon-Jupiter, Moon-Mercury, Venus-Jupiter, Asc-Lilith, Asc-Pluto, Mars-Chiron and so on.. My ambitions are internal largely and though an extrovert I can’t share them due to their lack of material value to most. I find people with careers that are complicated interesting, but I am involved in early learning circles due my kids, so don’t meet people like that much. And am much more interested in people’s inner core light (lots of moon trines!). So yeah, nothing to prove. Not driven by external approval in a way that is measured by power, money or fame despite being extrovert. Happy to work on myself and connect to healthy Sun-Neptune trine spirituality.

    • Reply Powderfinger November 18, 2017 at 12:45 pm

      Your posts are very much a reflection of tha Moon Nep Ven Jup energy expressed in a positive manner.

      • Reply sphinx November 21, 2017 at 6:54 pm

        Thank you Powder, I am Moon-in-Scorpio-cynical but I also have abundant positivity due I think to that Moon connected to that Jupiter/9th in Pisces. I know my laser focus is wearing in reality for many, but it’s not when surrounded by like minded souls like the crew here. Xx

    • Reply milleunanotte November 18, 2017 at 9:37 pm

      That’s funny to realise extroversion is seen as driven towards money, power or fame. I mean, sure I’m Leo Mc, Aries in 5th, and Sag Rising, but also Pisces 5th Sun and Sag in the 12th which is ruled on the cusp by 0 degree Scorp. Venus conjunct IC, too, but also conjunct NN in give-a-fq Aqua.

      I have noticed after some time that people i happily engaged with but proved to be shallow gossip types, have automatically seen me as driven and ambitious, and super confident. If I could be called any of those things, it’s not for myself, but for a greater work, team, people, or system. I never expect to profit in any way, and get a bit shy when i’m publicly thanked, all the while silently listing a running tab of what i didn’t manage. I’d rather do the shit in the background and cop it for doing so if it means i can leave behind a situ and people in better shape than when i got in. I’ll be the one in the bathroom, happily looking after an abandoned and struggling person, or making a happy and clear protected space on a crowded dance floor for people who usually get pushed back. You can’t be driven by approval if you’re MoonNepJup trine Sun, or Nep trine Sun. You just have to delight in the little tiny difference you can make to just one person, even if others are projecting. Got that Moon Mercury thing, too, with Nep Merc, Jup Merc, all trine. Plus the Chiron conjunct the Merc, so 5th Chiron trines Neptune, Jupiter Moon in 12th.

      TBH over time i feel your trines make your sense of the world and people around you easy to you in a fluid channelling style, but not always understood by others. Even though i think you bring such deep ease and comfort to others. Perhaps it is not understood by those who don’t trust emotion, intuition and spirituality very easily.

    • Reply Astro Hacks November 19, 2017 at 10:08 am

      That’s a great example of balance between the aspect, Sphinx. 🙂

      • Reply sphinx November 22, 2017 at 12:27 pm

        “You can’t be driven by approval if you’re MoonNepJup trine Sun, or Nep trine Sun”, no it’s too shamanic I think! It derives Sun positive power from otherworldly arenas. Tho I am not sure I bring others ease with that Moon in Scorpio, maybe more acute awareness of dis-ease. But I am largely at ease in myself; it’s partly due to the resilience emotionally that my trines bring me, the connection to ‘outside’ is very confidence enhancing, because it’s not about ego in here, it’s all out there. Those are some trines you have going on babe! I always feel your writing so keenly, you aren’t afraid of transparency, even in the face of the stresses of the past, it’s a rare courage.

        • Reply sphinx November 22, 2017 at 12:28 pm

          Oops, to Mille. And thank you Astro Hacker/MM!!

  • Reply Powderfinger November 18, 2017 at 12:37 pm

    It makes me feel better about my crazy, super-super-potent T Squares.

    • Reply Astro Hacks November 19, 2017 at 10:13 am

      Every chart has its own ‘lean’, its own internal balance. When the T-squares get tough, go to the trines, the sextiles, or maybe an aligned conjunction. If we lose enthusiasm or get bored, stir up the squares, semi-squares, oppositions, quincunx …

      • Reply Powderfinger November 19, 2017 at 9:43 pm

        I sometimes find it hard to distinguish all the aspects.
        My first T Sq is late Cancer Sun 1H opp early Aqua Moon 7H sqd by IC / Scorp SD Nep. Classic child abuse TSq. Nep has 10 Ptolemaic aspects; inc trine my Asc.
        My other is just as freakish. The other ruler of Pisces, Jupiter, is also a SD and focal. It squares my Mars (cj Pluto), 2H, and my Merc (cj Uran), 2H cusp, and is opp 8th Aqua Chiron. Jup trines my Sun.
        Those High n Low Octave conjuncts can be turbo-charged AND super-charged by Jupiter whilst Chiron tries to ride that bucking bull.
        Apparently I’m a Cancer…..

  • Reply astraeagold November 18, 2017 at 3:33 pm

    A friend of mine whose chart is dominated by trines once told me that she was ‘having a rest lifetime this time’. It’s always seemed to be a good description.

    • Reply Rhiannon November 18, 2017 at 4:03 pm

      I love that!

    • Reply Astro Hacks November 19, 2017 at 10:10 am

      I love that too!

      Reminds us not to judge – There’s a time for rest, a time for work, play, challenge, peace, ease …

    • Reply sphinx November 22, 2017 at 12:30 pm

      Yes, I get this! Knew a person who had had so many past life recollections of trauma amongst their soul group, always taking the hit for the other person to learn and grow. My God is she blessed in this life, she really has it all! Wish I knew her astro.

  • Reply milleunanotte November 19, 2017 at 11:29 am

    Sometimes I like my trines, but at the moment I feel like the Moon and Neptune stuff is muddying me. I can’t really tell if that’s the end of Saturn drudging through Sagittarius, where much of my trine action begins. The other trine is Pluto to Saturn, and i feel like it’s all too much Saturn in the personal deep.

    Then again, it might be that the trines are not being fed enough. Every time i have planned something to nourish that aspect, work responsibilities have taken over, or the thing has been cancelled. When i go out, it’s great but exhausting mentally somehow. One thing I have nurtured is taking rest in between, and not going the whole time, like i did before. I have actually achieved a lot, and know on paper I’ve been managing a particular limiting thing in the background (my fam knows about it, and they try to keep my eyes on the end of that situ, which roughly coincides with the end of Saturn in Sag, would you believe.)

    Thinking about Sun and Ascendant trines might be better: maybe 5th house Sun can shine on the shady 12th house. I feel like the shade part has imbued my sense of self.

    Are there any Sun trine Saturn people here? I’m wondering if I can try viewing the Sun shining on Saturn as a way to combat the guilty guilts, the drudgery of the Saturn transit. Mystic has said it’s harder at the end of the transit.

    Moon trine Chiron, Mercury
    Sun trine Neptune, Jupiter
    Mercury trine Asc, Moon, Jupiter, Neptune
    Chiron trine Asc, Moon, Jupiter, Neptune
    Venus trine Uranus

    I’m sure i’ll restore sunny cheer, and enjoy everything trine again. It’s too goddamn 12th house whiney over here. I feel like an emotional infant! Sorry that it flavours all my posts of late.

    • Reply Astro Hacks November 20, 2017 at 10:35 am

      Saturn in Saggo has been a long haul for many, for sure. That your fam is supportive is testimony to Moon trine Mercury and Chiron.

      The Mercury Neptune jumps for me. So many fantasy authors with that signature! 🙂

    • Reply Centaurus December 9, 2017 at 10:28 pm

      I’m Sun sq Saturn. I get what you’re saying…

      I had a fleeting urge to resurrect scorched earth 🙂 It’s felt quite apt but it’s from time passed and we all know if you resurrect something it’ll end up being some creepy kind of white-walker you’ll have to kill off again before it tries to kill you (as in your new, however fragile or thwarted soul emergence) so sometimes you just gotta shrug and laugh at yourself. Where have those days gone eh.. well, if my calculations are correct they aren’t far off as we are in the Saggi 12 days of xmas as Saturn preps to leave our lands, albeit razed and desolate but the mulch left behind will grow great new things and I already have ideas. Just the fact that ideas are bubbling is testament to the vibe change.

  • Reply lilopinpin November 20, 2017 at 11:56 am

    Well.. I deffo would not say complacent for me.. But a life of rest is a good example. I feel I have so much gratitude for just being alive, I’m in total awe of this world. I sadly never got a career and never really worked, I never finished high school. I just don’t have that stamina. I have endurance to walk my dog 2hours everyday for 10 years, enough discipline to yoga, meditate, eating healthy and studying what my heart desires.. But as for “important” things I just can’t do it. I don’t even want to fully. My MC is in Pisces so that sooo doesn’t help all the times in my chart, Sun Jupiter, moon Sun, Venus Jupiter, mars saturn. I have a finger of something though.. god? The yod. I’m 26 and feel like my life is wasting a bit.. My people have been telling me I can do what I want because I’m smart and what not, but I never did anything. The way I rationalize is Buddhist philosophy thinking shit don’t matter at all. 🙂 in a good way.

  • Reply kataqua November 21, 2017 at 6:59 am

    My ex has a dominant grand trine between his Sun in Libra, Moon in Aqua, Mars in Gemini. Such a chill guy, very into Zen style practice, it always made sense with that aspect pattern. He has very little ambition to do anything except exist in a peaceful state, and I really respect him for that. I, on the other hand, am besotted with T-squares between my Sun, Moon, and Mars/Saturn/Pluto, and it gives me the vim to keep pushing myself to greater achievements. I am thankful for my own grand trine between my Venus, Mars, and Vesta, and a mystic rectangle with Venus, Moon, Neptune, and Mars, as these aspects soften me quite a bit. Without those I’d be a bit of a rager. 🙂

  • Reply Centaurus December 9, 2017 at 10:14 pm

    Ah yes, I have quite a few and that might be where I can get laaaaazy or delaaaaay things lol.

    I am quite organised and focussed but also a bit random and discipline has typically been my nemesis (that could just be lots of mutability) though through certain periods I just go gang busters and I believe that to be transit induced discipline and motivation otherwise when it all feels a bit much I can quite happily stand in the field and chew grass and smell the flowers so to speak whilst I dream of things… 🙂

    Total sans asteroids but including key angles is (drum roll please… I am counting as I type..) = 13
    Lucky 13 or not. There are 5 from my Asc alone.

    But weighing in in a balancing kind of way are 9 squares and 6 oppositions and I do get rubbed and polished and don’t just swan around getting everything I want effortlessly. In fact it’s rarely been the case.

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